May (sigh) Skill Balance Thread

[Still Number One]

Originally Posted by arienrhode

It's part of Anet's new comedy titled How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Water Mesmer, staring Slim Pickens as T.J. "The Imba" Kong.

sounds boring.

[thinkingofaname]

This will probably never happen, but I like to see these in future updates.

A Rt/x build that can function other than a GvG flagger, or anything in PvE for that matter.

A A/x template that can do something in organized PvP other than 1234567.

P/x in any form of PvP besides RA. Actually stretch that, I'll even take RA.

[turbo234]

Originally Posted by thinkingofaname

This will probably never happen, but I like to see these in future updates.

A Rt/x build that can function other than a GvG flagger, or anything in PvE for that matter.

A A/x template that can do something in organized PvP other than 1234567.

P/x in any form of PvP besides RA. Actually stretch that, I'll even take RA.

[caretaker's charge][ancestor's rage][soothing memories][weapon of warding][enfeeble][rend enchantments][protective was kaolai][flesh of my flesh]
although i'll admit i haven't seen one used in a while.

[Dark Apostasy][vicious attack][disrupting throw][way of the master][critical eye][assassin's remedy]["go for the eyes!"]["brace yourself!"]
sin from omegaspikes.

and well for the para, i haven't seen much but after the last skill update a few months ago i saw a few teams fooling around with [defensive anthem]

[street peddler]

buff spawning power

[Still Number One]

Originally Posted by street peddler

buff spawning power

nerf fast casting.

[thinkingofaname]

Originally Posted by turbo234

[caretaker's charge][ancestor's rage][soothing memories][weapon of warding][enfeeble][rend enchantments][protective was kaolai][flesh of my flesh]
although i'll admit i haven't seen one used in a while.

[Dark Apostasy][vicious attack][disrupting throw][way of the master][critical eye][assassin's remedy]["go for the eyes!"]["brace yourself!"]
sin from omegaspikes.

and well for the para, i haven't seen much but after the last skill update a few months ago i saw a few teams fooling around with [defensive anthem]

What is the skill attribute for the rit? I really can't see enfeeble being any help when you need to split restore and channeling already, and 2 second rend on a rit um....idk. Problem with rits lie in spawning power, because right now the only reason rt/x ever being used is for the /x support.

That sin is OK, bu too easily countered with enchant removal, in the end just another gimmick build. We need a A/x that is flexible enough to be called a front line, not more 1 trick pony.

Lol at [defensive anthem].

[Dinkytowner]

- @ thinkingofaname - Do you play guildwars?

- And, please fix the AT schedule.

TY

[The Fallen One]

What amazes me in respect to this whole thing is that Anet can manage to pump out loads of celebratory content and pay-for-service content, but for some reason their whole "quarterly update" idea fell short when it came to PvP balancing. Goodness knows they've had more time to do it...

[Ec]-[oMaN]

May's update better be freaken large!!!

[thinkingofaname]

Originally Posted by Dinkytowner

- @ thinkingofaname - Do you play guildwars?

- And, please fix the AT schedule.

TY

No I don't, I post on guru just for fun. Honestly the average intelligence on these boards are dropping constantly.

Anyways, I doubt it will be a big update, probably just a couple of key nerfs people being complaining about, if that.

[dusanyu]

Why is it People want to Nerf Rangers to the point that there as Useful as Paragons?

We allready have seen Anet doed not want Rangers to Be able to throw around damage.

now that that has been nerfed

now how many complaints do we see about rangers being able to spread condis too readily.

and the whine fests about ranger interrupts still goes strong


Secondly PnH This skill is fine as long as the meta is hex heavy a Skill like PnH is necessary too many darn Degen hexes in this game as it is lets not remove the one skill than makes people think twice about bringing them.

[lutz]

Originally Posted by Catchphrase

I've used both Crippling Shot and Melandru's Shot and I've to admit I thoroughly enjoyed Melandru's Shot because it requires no brains at all to use it correctly with its 1 second activation.

I'm guessing that at the level of PvP you're playing at, nothing requires any brains at all.

[scruffy]

@ dusanyu

rangers used to be used quite a lot in gvg before melandrus shot and hunters shot were ever 1 second activation time, and when they get nerfed people will continue to use rangers like they always have

[The Fallen One]

Originally Posted by thinkingofaname

No I don't, I post on guru just for fun. Honestly the average intelligence on these boards are dropping constantly.

Anyways, I doubt it will be a big update, probably just a couple of key nerfs people being complaining about, if that.

Are the intelligence dropping? I wonder how you came to that startling conclusion.

[Catchphrase]

Originally Posted by lutz

I'm guessing that at the level of PvP you're playing at, nothing requires any brains at all.

Your compliments are extraordinary. /ends sarcasm

Melandru's Shot over accomplish. Simple as that. Either remove its + damage or remove its 1 second activation.

[TheDarkshineKnight]

Nerf Hexes
Nerf PnH
Nerf Fast Casting
Buff Paragons
Buff Ritualists
Buff Dervishes
Buff Assassins

I think that covers it. :P

[xDementia]

Originally Posted by TheDarkshineKnight

Nerf Hexes
Nerf PnH
Nerf Fast Casting
Buff Paragons
Buff Ritualists
Buff Dervishes
Buff Assassins

I think that covers it. :P

The single rule if it is ever possible to get close to balance is not to buff and nerf things at the same time. Nerfing something is supposed to make room for other things and buffing things over the top only forces people to use them, reducing the options. For quite some time that's what anet has been doing... and yet they always say they are going to monitor skill changes carefully!

There are a couple of skills and builds like mindblast eles with distortion, FF necro that have been used in other formats for quite some time and now see play in gvg. Sure PnH and FF need some tweaking but it might open the door to things like EDA D/P or Fevered Dreams hex+condition overload for example.

Having RC has always been keeping conditions in check so far but it's pure build wars all over again. For the same reason people have been asking for Wounding Strike to have conditions switched but it can't be seen as a problem in the eyes of anet if it doesn't see play in gvg.

In other words, hard counters discourage people running overload builds but when they disappear it's going to be worse because of all the skills changes that happened for over a year that are just waiting to be abused. Some of them see play in other formats like TA because there is less room for hard counters and it reveals how problematic they really are.

[SimplyAmazing]

do not touch RoJ, as it's the only offensive skill that monk's have that is effective.

and Ritu's are HORRIBLE and near useless, i wish they weren't as mine's my favorite toon, why nerf Recuperation? it's the only defensive spirit that's actually useful besides displacement.

[X Black Chaos X]

BB is fine the way it is. BB sins need buffs such as Strength and honor and judges insight along w/ RoJ or another form of AoE to do some nice dmg( order of the vampire is nice too). Also BB takes 10 adren to power up, on top of that the sin usually shadow steps and pulls out a hammer to do the combo. If you can't see a hammer and ur prot unistall plz. (even a shadow step really). spirt bond ftw on BB spikes or Divine Intervention if you play Hero Battles.

I like mitch's ideas for a balance update,i also thing that moving the skills Aura of Displacement Recall and Shadow Meld to critcal strikes rather than no attribute would be the best solution to fix their terrible functionality. These skills are so over used in the Hero Battle format it's just abusrd. Moving those skills to crit and adding some sort of duration on them would force lamers(as we so call them) to choose a real build for a change.

[Krill]

Originally Posted by TheDarkshineKnight

Nerf Hexes
Nerf PnH
Nerf Fast Casting
Buff Paragons
Buff Ritualists
Buff Dervishes
Buff Assassins

I think that covers it. :P

There's simply no way to buff sins and dervs in a manner that doesn't drive most people insane (smashing keys for huge damage).

Rits have hardly any good skills left :s

[ancestor's rage] - Nerfed 3 times? Why wasn't it just upped to 10 energy? The last nerf was totally uncalled for, just a knee-jerk reaction to rawr.

[splinter weapon] - It's been over 8 months since NPCs were getting splinter bombed at VoD and yet...this skill still remains nerfed.